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Discussing the Mandalorian Lifestyle
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|Subject: Discussing the Mandalorian Lifestyle Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:10 am|| |
In every story, be it canon or fan fiction, the mandalorian lifestyle has always been depicted as harsh, dangerous. But in some of these stories the mandalorian protagonist also sometimes enjoys a happy life, and in certain cases even settles down and has a "family".
Here's the deal. As a fan/writer, how do you think mandalorians are commonly perceived as? (ie by the jedi-worshipers for example, or even by the regular star wars fan)
- Bounty Hunter?
- Mercenary/Soldier for hire?
- Upholder of the peace?
Do you think that Boba and Jango put mandalorians into a "bad light" by being the bad guys of the Star Wars Movies?
Do you think that mandalorians should continue living their dangerous lifestyle, even when they have a "family" or do you think they should "ease up" for the sake of the younger mandos?
Do you think having a family is ideal for a mandalorian's lifestyle. ie, can the contradiction of mandos being bad asses and being family-oriented be reconciled somehow?
Discuss (don't fight)
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|Subject: Re: Discussing the Mandalorian Lifestyle Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:01 pm|| |
Judging purely by what I've seen on other forums and Star Wars fan sites, etc., it appears to me that most non-Mando fans see Mandos as hardcore fighters at best (with little personality depth) and brainless thugs at worst.
- commander-13 wrote:
- Here's the deal. As a fan/writer, how do you think Mandalorians are commonly perceived as? (ie by the Jedi-worshipers for example, or even by the regular star wars fan)
I have noticed, however, that some people out there have had their opinions changed regarding Mandalorians after reading Karen Traviss' books. I haven't read the Legacy stuff, but it seems like most people who have a problem with her have a problem with that series.
One friend of mine, who was a purely Jedi fan, read the RC series and it got him really interested in Mandos. So I've seen it go both ways. Of course, there are also those out there who consider Boba and sometimes Jango as the only "true" Mandos, refusing to accept that anything past their creations as canon to the Mandalorian culture/idea.
Perhaps, but at the same time, Jango definitely appears to be a caring father in Episode II. It might not be openly lovey-dovey, but I think it was implied clearly enough. Sometimes "good" guys do "bad" things. ;P The division between light and dark always carries with it that gray line in the middle that some people, especially Mandalorians, seem to hover about.
- commander-13 wrote:
- Do you think that Boba and Jango put Mandalorians into a "bad light" by being the bad guys of the Star Wars Movies?
It's actually funny that you bring this up. In more than one of the RPs I'm in on SWtoR, my characters struggle with this very question all the time. I think it all comes down to using good judgment. If the child(ren) is/are too young to be pushed with a full-fledged Mando lifestyle, then they should stay with one parent or family member who is relatively stationary until they come of age. They grow up learning the Mandalorian lifestyle and then put it into practice when they are able.
- commander-13 wrote:
- Do you think that Mandalorians should continue living their dangerous lifestyle, even when they have a "family" or do you think they should "ease up" for the sake of the younger Mandos?
Again, it all comes down to who you know and how you do things. But I do think that a family, at least in some sense, is necessary for survival of the Mandalorian culture. Perhaps one of the reasons that adoption would be so widespread is not only because of the need for more troops, but also because if someone takes in an older child who is fighting or near-fighting capable, they have less time that they have to spend being "dormant" so to speak.
- commander-13 wrote:
- Do you think having a family is ideal for a Mandalorian's lifestyle? Can the contradiction of Mandos being bad asses and being family-oriented be reconciled somehow?
Not only that, but not all Mandalorians are out and about all of the time. There are farmers (like the Fetts), and undoubtedly other lifestyles of which Mandalorians would be employed besides the constant-action careers of bounty hunters and mercenaries. Making and maintaining a family would surely be easier for them, and some clans, even if occasionally nomadic, would probably have roots in certain places. (Like Concord Dawn and other planets). Go back to the clan, have a child, raise them, take them back out into the world, etc.
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|Subject: Re: Discussing the Mandalorian Lifestyle Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:08 pm|| |
I think all those questions contain their own answers and to make things short I'll just throw my 2 cents:
KT got us thinking that there was such thing as a Mandalorian lifestyle while we were previously all assuming that there's just a "bounty hunter/merc lifestyle". I think there are Mandalorians in the galaxy doing various things to survive, and I like to believe that whatever makes them bad ass is their ability to adapt and change.
From there, yes the merc life versus family life can reconcile (and merge, let's go crazy) and yes we can expect to prepare for anything when we finally see Mandalorians in mainstream Star Wars. Personally, I'm psyched for season 2 of Clone Wars. Anybody who says otherwise is a big fat naysayer with a tiny, tiny heart.
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|Subject: Re: Discussing the Mandalorian Lifestyle Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:31 am|| |
Personally, I think they are supposed to be gruff, self-serving and self-interested warriors. Now before shooting me down, let me explain why I think so. First, their origins are that they were a nomadic people who worshipped gods who required sacrifices by warfare from them. Their first defeat had them exiled across space where they remained for many years, then they went to claim new territory and found Mandalore. After that, they simply went out to conquer more and more and war itself became their diety. Now you can imagine that a people who are bound on conquest as a lifestyle isolate themselves from others by being themselves, and obviously would have to have a way of surviving the hatred from others by being a very internally friendly society. And of course, their lifestyles wouldn't exactly allow them to substain their numbers as much as the next culture, so they had to resort to adoption simply to survive. And since they adopt others, they can't say that the adopted isn't one of their own in all aspects because otherwise the adopted wouldn't stay.
But that's probably just me.
Edit: In other words, they can classify as other: Isolationist merchants of death.
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