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PostSubject: Mando-what?   Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:47 pm

Let's talk about this, people. Say things here you wouldn't dare saying in other communities. I'll start.

There are no mention of Mandalorians in the movies or cartoons/animations at all and this has quite a negative effect on this awesome concept of a culture that spurred so many ideas and inspiration. This absence of exposure to the great public leads to many misconceptions and silly thoughts.

The whole Boba Fett and clone business is misleading. Mandalorians aren't all clones, not all Mandalorians speak with the Concordian accent. [And for the record, the Dha Werda Verda anthem should be considered as a language learning sing-along. I like to believe that Mando's bow to no one.]

The idea of having Mandalorians working for the Republic - for the Jedi - is quite revolting and I wish they hadn't made that action figure pack called "Republic Elite Forces", and what do you find inside? Bingo, Mandalorians. Neutral Try to explain to a 7 year old what the heck they're doing in Star Wars, where are suddenly a lot of Power Rangers trying to look like Jango and why such cool-looking dudes don't appear on screen.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:31 pm

Why is the idea of Mandos working for/with the Jedi revolting? It's a job, same as any other. Some Mandos have a problem with the Jedi due to their percieved attitude, but in a situation like what they had, where the Mandos were working for their Mand'alor, who happened to be working for the Republic, unaffiliated with the Jedi, there weren't any real problems. They were doing what any good Mando should, and that's answering the call of their leader when he needed them.

It's a hot-button topic for me, since my character was formerly a Jedi before he became a Mandalorian. There's a simple reason why he's not in the "Lost 20" from the Jedi Library... dishonorable discharge. Got pissed at Yo-yo and shoved his damn chair off a rail...with him in it.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:46 pm

Not every single instance of Mandalorians working for Jedi is revolting. But it's misleading that (aside from Boba Fett--if you consider him a Mando at the time--working for Jabba the Hutt) most every Mandalorian you see in canon works under a Jedi or with the Republic, when really the Mandalorians should be their own faction. Jango was hired by Dooku, and the "Republic Elite Forces"? I mean, really, the contract for the Cuy'val Dar was for the training of the clones, not necessarily fighting on the side of the Republic. Granted, Entertainment Earth can take its liberties with what they call their action figures since they aren't... I dunno, some form of media, but still.

I guess if you've played KOTOR you know that Mandalorians do have one representation of autonomy when they started the Mandalorian Wars, but still--by the end they were allied with the Sith. :/

I want to see more Mandalorian-centric EU out there. More comic books that aren't just about Boba Fett. Maybe even a book with Mandalorians in it that isn't written by KT (although no complaints if it was!).
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:02 pm

Yeah I agree there. Even just the fanfiction out there now is just reflecting that, a Mandalorian sympethatic to the Republic and other Mandies just nodding their heads while in the established canon the Mandies have mostly been allied to themselves but paid to fight for others, aka mercenaries. Or if not for money or themselves, the Sith also managed to get them on to their side by tempting their fighting instincts. But in any case, they're still not entirely on any side at any time, just on the side the Mandalore at the time thinks is the most valid. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:48 pm

In hard contact Ghez Hokan hinted at how most Mandalorians where insulted that the Jedi took their hero, Mand'alor Jango Fett, and turned his image into some watered down throw away trooper.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:54 pm

Yes well that may just be Ghez Hokans view as he was a somewhat strong headed mando, being ex-deathwatch and all! As far as im concerned the jedi didn't hire mandos to train the clones and those mandos that stayed with the republic after their contract was up stayed for their "boys" or money, and were hired by the republic, not the jedi therefore they were working for the republic not the jedi. Yes many mandos do feel strongly against jedi and even sith, but only due to certain events where the groups conflicted ie. Galidraan. Personally I have nothing against most jedi or sith, however my character hates them due to losing family members at Galidraan.

But I agree we do need more mando-centric novels, not just more based around Boba, who wasn't even a mando, just wore the armour up until around about 40bby-ish. I too wont complain if they come from Karen Traviss but, it would be nice to see some from a different author, as that would show that she isn't the only author that actually likes them, and it would hopefully create a broader background of mando culture, due to the different writing styles.

Tracyn

P.S, I agree with you Daennika, more publicity of mandos would greatly reduce the frankly huge number of false identifications, I recieve while trooping. If I get called a power ranger, clone trooper, storm trooper, or even darth freaking vader (yes, it has happened! Mad) i will be extremely tempted to hit the said protaganist!
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:27 am

I get Ghez might be a bit strong headed but I see his views on why he'd be angry.

In modern day terms it would be as if China cloned Chuck Norris and turned him into a disposable trooper... sorry for the Chuck Norris refrence
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:19 am

Yes I can see where you are coming from Dose, I'm just saying that I don't think that that was the view of all mando's everywhere

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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:38 pm

I see Ghez's veiw on the clones as all the more reason Kal was right to do what he did. The more of these boys who can be shown what their birthright is and taken into mando culture, the better.

That said, I'd kill for some Mando stories set in the KOTOR era. When The Sith were legion, The jedi had something besides gullible stooges in their ranks(Revan) and we Mandalorians
fought for Mandalore. And the creds too.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:30 pm

RC-2017 wrote:
That said, I'd kill for some Mando stories set in the KOTOR era. When The Sith were legion, The jedi had something besides gullible stooges in their ranks(Revan) and we Mandalorians
fought for Mandalore. And the creds too.
Oya! I second this motion...

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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:03 am

Technically wouldn't the Clones have been drafted by the Sith, not the Jedi. Yes the Jedi used the sword, but they by no means created the weapon, it was simply a marriage of convenience.

If I understand the Mandalorian mindset, they would have perceived the Jedi as a worthy adversary (begin heated debate now!) that meaning they would fight fairly...and not destroy unnecessarily, or 'give up' to preserve their own existence. While a Sith would use any unfair advantage even duplicity and subservience until an opportunity presented itself. A Jedi would present a challenging opponent with honor which Mandoa would see as glorious conquest, instead of just besting a foe.



....Wow, surprisingly thoughtful if I do say so myself...considering zero sleep in the last 2 days, hehehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:01 pm

I'm curious as to how Mando's will be worked into Tor, the forums are heated as to what they should be, either a playable class or a faction you can join or even just npcs. I REALLY hope it's a faction you can join but not easily. you gotta earn your beskar'gam!

I just hate how a lot of people say that mandalorians shouldn't even be in the game. they're probably trolling but whatever I can't understand why people hate mandalorians.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:54 pm

I personally do not think Mandalorians should be a faction/class/race/WHATEVER available for the PC. Instead, we work for the Mandalorians, but we never really become one. At most, at the very most, we are able to ally with them and/or be a respected aruetii

That's the only way I can see to keep everyone happy. Yeah, so fandalorians can't be the mando they always wanted to be, but honestly? Most of the "Fandalorians" on the TOR boards don't even know the first thing about Mandalorians.

They don't know that Mandalorians are a Nomadic people comprised of all the races of the galaxy, giving up their 'race name' to pick up the warrior title of Mandalorian. It's a cease of identification, they no longer label themselves "Human" or "Chagrian" or "Twi'lek" or whatever, from the moment they're adopted or born or accepted they are Mandalorian.

They don't know that Mandalorians are not only bounty hunters or mercenaries, but farmers, cooks, fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, restaurant owners, cantina workers, and so on. They are their own society, and they are (relatively) self sufficient.

And the list goes on.

I hate most of the "fandalorians" on the TOR boards, actually. Their arguments make little to no sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:55 pm

Anecdote wrote:
Most of the "Fandalorians" on the TOR boards don't even know the first thing about Mandalorians.

They don't know that Mandalorians are a Nomadic people comprised of all the races of the galaxy, giving up their 'race name' to pick up the warrior title of Mandalorian. It's a cease of identification, they no longer label themselves "Human" or "Chagrian" or "Twi'lek" or whatever, from the moment they're adopted or born or accepted they are Mandalorian.

They don't know that Mandalorians are not only bounty hunters or mercenaries, but farmers, cooks, fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, restaurant owners, cantina workers, and so on. They are their own society, and they are (relatively) self sufficient.

And the list goes on.

I hate most of the "fandalorians" on the TOR boards, actually. Their arguments make little to no sense.
This tis truely despicable! Bah fandalorians my shebs! Atleast all of us here at mandoboard realise and understand this! And if you don't I will hunt you down! j/k But seriously read up quick-snap or i may have to...

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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:30 am

Well I'm pretty sure most of the TOR board goes may have played Galaxies...Where you got Mandalorian armor by simply doing some quests, hauling around a crafter and putting items you collected together. And viola! You had yourself a suit of Beskar'gam. The only restriction their USED to be was you had to be a Bounty hunter.

Because of their prevalence in the time period, Mandalorian may be a faction, but I doubt it will be a classification for race, the continuity folks a LucasArts are to anal for that. They might add some reputation to the faction, but I would hope it'd be some epic quest to become recognized by the Mandalorians. Oh well, ignorance is what separates them from us. Here's hoping they don't screw it up to bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Mando-what?   Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:41 am

In galaxies tho there were proper mando guilds...in the role play sense. I used to be in one of them lol, but yea I don't even wanna go near the TOR forums these days...personally I think bioware should make a new forum for mandos only to discuss those topics....wtih a certain test that only a true mando fan would beable to pass...ok ok bit over the top but you get the drift?

I'd still really like a mandalorian faction...at least that way you'd have to earn your way in unlike the choosing profession at the start drama in SWG. I'd really be disappointed with TOR if i couldn't play as one..would kinda defeat the purpose of me buying it lol.
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