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PostSubject: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:48 am

I think I'm not the only one who needs to discuss some Mando-related facts BEFORE starting to write a fanfic or to draw a piece of fanart, but let me be the first. Smile

1. It was said in KOTOR that after the defeat in Mandalorian wars the Basilisk droids were taken from the Mandalorians. Does anybody know what exactly happened to the Basilisks? Were they destroyed, used, stored in some places? I've read that Xisor's (do I spell him right?..) Virago was somehow related to the basilisk-type spacecraft, so it must mean that at least some of them were preserved...

2. Concerning armour. Beskar ore is said to be very rare, so the Mandalorian armour must cost a fortune, am I right? And another thing: what is the material that is underneath the beskar plates? Does it have any special characteristics? Is it fire/water/someting-else-proof? How easily it can be damaged?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:04 am

I can't help you with the first question but this is what I know about beskar:

It's also known as "Manda-metal" and its principal characteristic is being extremely dense. Not only is it expensive to buy a full set of armor, but try to find one of the few Mandalorian armorsmiths willing to build one for you. I'm guessing the confection of such suits is restricted to Mandalorian warriors (I like to believe that not all residents of Keldabe are wearing it). Besides it's a common belief that Boba Fett was the only man known to wear the Mandalorian armor until 40 ABY (when a new vein of beskar was discovered on Mandalore).

The fabric or material used to hold the plates together is rather a personal choice but I assume it can go from a simple flight suit to something using protective layers against certain solar rays, biohazard stuff and or even fireproof materials. It's all up to the author's imagination.

The alternate laser-proof metal is Cortosis.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:17 am

For your first question, I think the Basilisks were pretty well gone after the Mando War mishap, but in KOTOR 2, the Mandos on Dxun are still in posession of one, I believe (that was the ship you are inserted into Onderon with during the Civil War, correct?). So I suppose there is a possibility that there are still drifter units. No concrete sources, I don't think, however, and in no mass quantities or commission.

For the second, I like to think armor is recycled, passed down through families and such, so it's still possible to get real beskar plates (even though, yeah, some of the population may be left with the durasteel stuff or varients or lesser mixes, etc.) I know at least Jango had some sort of gription material under his plates that diffused the shock of blows, and Kal had beskar impregnated gloves (maybe flightsuit, too). Most suits (even not Mando suits, I mean) have some sort of heating system in them (cold resistant), and I figure if your gaunts have flame trhowers, your material is also flame resistant. Razz I figure Mandos have the works when it comes to weather and environmental resistance, considering they are so nomadic and don't always have shelter. As always, Mando armor is adaptable and personalized, so customize all you want. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:17 pm

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Besides it's a common belief that Boba Fett was the only man known to wear the Mandalorian armor until 40 ABY (when a new vein of beskar was discovered on Mandalore).
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The alternate laser-proof metal is Cortosis.

Oh, right! That is good. No, I mean, that can be really bad for Mandalorians, but that helps me a lot. In fact, it makes things much easier for me. Very Happy

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I know at least Jango had some sort of gription material under his plates that diffused the shock of blows, and Kal had beskar impregnated gloves (maybe flightsuit, too). Most suits (even not Mando suits, I mean) have some sort of heating system in them (cold resistant), and I figure if your gaunts have flame trhowers, your material is also flame resistant. I figure Mandos have the works when it comes to weather and environmental resistance, considering they are so nomadic and don't always have shelter.

Ahha, got it. Not that I cannot think of something like this, but it is always useful to have some basic information, just in case. Wink


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As always, Mando armor is adaptable and personalized, so customize all you want.

Man, that's why I love Mandalorians. They're open for changes when it comes to gadgets. Laughing

So, it seems I am free to write about Basilisks. Great! Thank you, guys, you've helped a lot. Now I've got a proper impetus for my inspiration. =))
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:02 pm

Kote wrote:
I think I'm not the only one who needs to discuss some Mando-related facts BEFORE starting to write a fanfic or to draw a piece of fanart, but let me be the first. Smile

1. It was said in KOTOR that after the defeat in Mandalorian wars the Basilisk droids were taken from the Mandalorians. Does anybody know what exactly happened to the Basilisks? Were they destroyed, used, stored in some places? I've read that Xisor's (do I spell him right?..) Virago was somehow related to the basilisk-type spacecraft, so it must mean that at least some of them were preserved...

2. Concerning armour. Beskar ore is said to be very rare, so the Mandalorian armour must cost a fortune, am I right? And another thing: what is the material that is underneath the beskar plates? Does it have any special characteristics? Is it fire/water/someting-else-proof? How easily it can be damaged?

To answer question #1: there were some cowardly Mandalorians who left before the war ended, and then there were numerous conquered worlds that had a number of war forges (factories) still active or recently abandoned. Since the Mandalorians really were nomadic, it seems to imply a lot about that each engineer who worked on refitting ships for the war could well put together a droid from memory. Not all Mandalorians were where Canderous and Revan were when the war ended, mind you, and battlefields are bound to be littered with the remnants of the weapons they used, so salvaging wouldn't be hard for them... even after thousands of years if durasteel really is durable.

And number two, according to my trusty complete visual dictionary the Mandalorians who could afford it would buy more than one suit for backup, so yeah very expensive. And the jumpsuit on Jango is labelled as waterproof and layered, and the vest is an energised blast dissipation vest, whatever that means.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:13 am

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And number two, according to my trusty complete visual dictionary the Mandalorians who could afford it would buy more than one suit for backup, so yeah very expensive. And the jumpsuit on Jango is labelled as waterproof and layered, and the vest is an energised blast dissipation vest, whatever that means.

Uh-huh, got it. Complete visionary dictionaries rule. =))
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:21 pm

Boba actually didn't wear beskar until the LOTF series, when Beviin made him a new set. Until then, he just wore durasteel.

For my personal armor that I'm making for a costume... I'm actually going with six-gauge aluminum plates backed with carbon fiber over a kevlar-aramid weave vest, which itself will be over a gore-tec jumpsuit that's over an aramid fiber jumpsuit (or possibly mated to it, which would be much more expensive, though), with a full temp-control suit underneath it like what the astronauts wear. All of it will be pressurized and sealed. Helmet's another story for another day.

But I do know that it's more than some in-universe Mandos had. And they didn't have the best stuff out there even when they did have pressurized suits and such. For example, Delta Squad had better temperature control systems in their suits than Vau did, and it's assumed that Vau had a better setup than Kal did.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion: random Mando-related questions   Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:15 pm

Cericneesh wrote:
Boba actually didn't wear beskar until the LOTF series, when Beviin made him a new set. Until then, he just wore durasteel.

That is strange. Do you mean Jango didn't have a beskar armour? Or did Boba sell or somehow lose it? Because as far as I know, according to canon books, he took Dad's body with the armour on it when he fled Geonosis.
Nah, not that it matters anyway. =)


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But I do know that it's more than some in-universe Mandos had. And they didn't have the best stuff out there even when they did have pressurized suits and such. For example, Delta Squad had better temperature control systems in their suits than Vau did, and it's assumed that Vau had a better setup than Kal did.

Ah, right, that was a very useful reference, thank you. =)
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