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PostSubject: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:17 pm

"Knights of the Old Republic" for those that don't know. I like to call this the "dildo suit"



One person asked me to draw it. ONCE. But I had my reasons to refuse and still at this day I think this looks like crap. Imagine the people who will rush on The Old Republic game to become a badass Mandalorian from 3,000 years ago and they get THAT.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:08 pm

I have to agree that it's not the most enticing beskar'gam out there, especially the buy'ce...but I have to say that from that era, this armor is probably my favorite:

Other than that, not really...I'm hoping that they'll be smart and introduce them in the Legacy comic soon...I'm tired of going without my monthly dose of mando'ade...
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:02 pm

Yeah, the Mandalorians in the KOTOR games were terribly ugly. My brother is obsessed with Canderous Ordo, and at first I was like "Well he's fun to talk but GAWRSH IF HIS OUTFIT ISN'T HIDEOUS."

Mandalore the Ultimate also seemed to avoid the ultra-ugly KKK hood:

I did an Old Republic RPG during the Mandalorian Wars, and my friend and I were like "Yeeah... uh, our Mandalorians have modified suits that look like [description of 'modern' Mandalorian armor here]." There was no way our BAMF-ing Mandos were going to look like the KKK.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:59 pm

pahaha! KKK mando's...too bad the Stormtroopers already filled that role. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:35 am

The armor always bothered me because I could never really figure out how they were to see to the side. Do they have to turn their whole body because their helmet connects? Razz I figure if they get tinged off the head they'd just kinda fall over.

Call me a traitor, but Demagol had some sweet armor. Very slick.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:43 am

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The armor always bothered me because I could never really figure out how they were to see to the side. Do they have to turn their whole body because their helmet connects? Razz I figure if they get tinged off the head they'd just kinda fall over.

Call me a traitor, but Demagol had some sweet armor. Very slick.
I tend to think that the optics from inside the visor allow for a panoramic view but the neck connection looks locked into position there, like Batman.

That's a cool picture, Shas. I like that armor because it looks like it lets some mobility without being too bulky like Iron Man.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:46 am

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I tend to think that the optics from inside the visor allow for a panoramic view but the neck connection looks locked into position there, like Batman.

That's a cool picture, Shas. I like that armor because it looks like it lets some mobility without being too bulky like Iron Man.

I dunno if they had panoramic view back then--when Vau (I think?) was using it in one of the RepCom books, he made it sound like it was brand new to him, like it had come out recently. And I dunno, maybe it was out for a long time and he was just an old dude who didn't want to buy it.

Either way, UGLY ARMOR :(

Demagol's is friggen sweet though. I imagine he puts kittens on those spikes.

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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:04 pm

I personally like Demagol's 'doctor' suit.

This frame particularly.

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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:28 pm

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I personally like Demagol's 'doctor' suit.

This frame particularly.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/41/Demagol.jpg

Okay, that screams "Mad Scientist", "Evil Villain", and "Super Badass" all at once. Especially the pointed shoulders.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:58 pm

Guys, you really don't have to quote posts that are right about the one you are posting unless it's a super huge one and you want to highlight one thing; plus, repeat pictures are annoying and take load time. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:07 am

Fixed the double picture.

By the way, people, you can edit your own posts after you've sent them. Look at them and if they make you look silly then you can always adjust the shot.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:39 pm

Catika wrote:

I did an Old Republic RPG during the Mandalorian Wars, and my friend and I were like "Yeeah... uh, our Mandalorians have modified suits that look like [description of 'modern' Mandalorian armor here]." There was no way our BAMF-ing Mandos were going to look like the KKK.

I was apart of that rpg! I remember doing research on Mandos and their armor and seeing pictures of the armor and wondering how they moved. Then I think I just blocked the image from my mind and imagined them in more modern armor.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:11 pm

Yeah I never liked these until the comics came out and retconned these armours being used by a faction heretic to the Mandalorians. Really changed my perspective on them. tongue

The variety of the others are great though.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:59 pm

Well, here's the thing. When I first saw the Mandalorian uniforms in KOTOR, it's true, I hated them. Not because of any perceived resemblance to any hate group, but because the helmets had absolutely no peripheral vision! Heck, they weren't even helmets, they were just faceplates that were two sizes too small stuck onto a fiberweave headdress.

However, looking at the comic version of the Neo Crusader uniform, I'd have to say that I love the changes they've made. At least from an aesthetic point of view. Now, not only are their masks as big as their faces, but now they look like the Desert Rats under General Montgomery.

Still, there ain't no way I'd wear one of those things. Why? Because the moment the enemy attacks you from behind: BLAM! No more Mando.

On a related note, anyone ever realize that it seems to be consistently portrayed in SW canon that people with the last name Fett are total Jerkasses?
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:05 am

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On a related note, anyone ever realize that it seems to be consistently portrayed in SW canon that people with the last name Fett are total Jerkasses?
I agree, Arla Fett is a total douche that needs slapping out of her crazy mind.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:13 am

I felt bad for Arla in Open Seasons, but it's sort of weird that all of the sudden she's back. I feel like she needs to be separate from all of the KT shenanigans though. There's too much stuff going on with that already!

Not that I don't have KT's character cancer disease or anything...

lol, jerkasses. What a great word. :p
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:34 pm

Hehe, found the comic I was looking for. It's quite funny, but in it the Mandalore at the time before Kotor actually said "I've never much liked the look of the Neo-Crusader (Kotor Mando) armour". Seems like the author shared the distaste for it's look. Laughing

Arla's return gets Imperial Commando somewhere for Skirata and co. It'll be nice to see Concord Dawn again.

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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:43 am

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Hehe, found the comic I was looking for. It's quite funny, but in it the Mandalore at the time before Kotor actually said "I've never much liked the look of the Neo-Crusader (Kotor Mando) armour".

I want to see it! Very Happy

Oh, and btw, has anybody seen at least one Mando woman in KOTOR-related games/comics? I haven't. It seems so strange, especially given that women are expected to fight just as men do, if they don't have small children. Huh, but maybe it's for good, 'cause a woman in that ugly scarecrow outfit... gah..
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:49 am

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Oh, and btw, has anybody seen at least one Mando woman in KOTOR-related games/comics? I haven't. It seems so strange, especially given that women are expected to fight just as men do, if they don't have small children. Huh, but maybe it's for good, 'cause a woman in that ugly scarecrow outfit... gah..
The guys who wrote in the KOTOR universe were, well... guys. If Traviss hadn't been there to add that particular aspect of the Mando culture I don't know who else would have. Star Wars is a very pro-macho thing Sad
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:00 am

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The guys who wrote in the KOTOR universe were, well... guys. If Traviss hadn't been there to add that particular aspect of the Mando culture I don't know who else would have. Star Wars is a very pro-macho thing Sad

Now when I come to think of it - indeed it is. Sad And when there is some warrior/politician woman she - ah! - falls in love, marries and makes a lot of children, preferably twins. Laughing

Though I still wonder where were the women... they had bo be somewhere! The author guys were definitely not aware of an awful blight - slashing yaoi-loving fangirls... DIE, SLASHERS!
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:57 pm

Yaoi...things that make you go "buuuuh"...

I'd really like to consider a re-visit to the Beskar'gam...maybe something more versatile...or mobile...

ah well. I'll figure something out. You just don't see too much variety unless you look in the KOTOR comic series. They're supposed to be comprised of various species, but all you see for the most part are humans.

I'd really like to see an iktochi Mando...*daydreams and drools*
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:33 am

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You just don't see too much variety unless you look in the KOTOR comic series. They're supposed to be comprised of various species, but all you see for the most part are humans.

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Human males, 99.9%. Exasperating, isn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:09 am

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You just don't see too much variety unless you look in the KOTOR comic series. They're supposed to be comprised of various species, but all you see for the most part are humans.

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Human males, 99.9%. Exasperating, isn't it?
And perhaps that setting makes them a bit closer to the Greeks/Spartans and by that I mean gay.

I suppose the "Mandalorians" of the pre-Traviss era were a tradition of warriors that mercenaries would fall into without having to go through specific rules of inheritance. But what do I know? I skipped a lot of Canderous Ordo's monologues in KOTOR.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:50 pm

I think they would have included a few other models in the Kotor game for aliens, women and so forth if they were the key focus of the game. It's a game after all - they can't design every single detail for everything. In it you don't see any female armoured Sith trooper either. Wink And plus, most of the NPC's look the same.

As for the Mandalorians of the pre-Traviss era, I think they weren't that much different. But there were major continuity issues between sources and no single definition before she came along. At least that's how I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Mando outfit in KOTOR   Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:21 pm

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But what do I know? I skipped a lot of Canderous Ordo's monologues in KOTOR.
See, for me it was the exact opposite. In both KOTOR 1 and 2, every time I got to hear one of Canderous' stories I'd plop my character down in front of him with a "kid in a candy store" look on their faces and listen to every to every word he said.

Reven (wide-eyed): Tell me a story, Canderous.
{later}
Canderous: . . . And then, after the Republic had won at Malacore V, they confiscated all of our weapons and Basilisk war droids and melted them down for scrap.
Reven (angry): Bastards!!!
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