(OOC) Planning Thread!

Maybe just one word?
I kind of like Hoard but that's something from WoW isn't it?

They could be awffiliated with Black Sun. We you thinking maybe they're on good terms with them or should the gang a division of Black Sun or something?

As far as the gang being neutral, good, or bad... maybe they don't really cause a lot of damages on a regular basis. They just have control of the area, they're not improving or helping the community, and when something bad happens they usually get the credit for it. They're not good, but they could be worse.

Maybe it can be this way: both gangs were once affiliated to the Black Sun, but now one of them desides to break with them and finds some other "patron" organization, Hutts, for example, and so they start to struggle for more influence and territory, to undermine BS-loyal gang's business etc.

If the action takes place on Coruscant and if we're not playing some high-politics-mob, then the most probable spheres of interest for the gangs might be gaming, drugs, prostitution (ans so, maybe, slavery, but not on a large scale), some minor contraband and offering protection. The civvies are most likely to suffer if the protection business goes wrong - for example, if the rival gang starts messing with those who are "protected". And here the reputation of a "lawful" gang may get really spoiled, even if they try to prevent hard things.

Erm, that's the results of my think-tank. Hope they can help.

As for the bios, I actually think I am going to make them longer - first, I've got some ideas, second, it would be easier for others to interact with the characters they know more, so to say, intimately. =)

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Maybe just one word?
I kind of like Hoard but that's something from WoW isn't it?

Yeah, and it's actually "Horde" in WoW. I'm realizing now I used the wrong spelling of the word. :p

I did two names (Adjective/noun) for the gangs because that seems to be the general theme for gang names, ie, Black Sun, Blood Vulkars, Rabid Mynocks (haha I don't think it was 'rabid' but it was something-mynocks). I'm okay with using one. I'm partial to "Scourge," which could perhaps be the name of the rebel gang that breaks off of Black Sun.

Which brings me to my next point: Kote, I like your idea a lot! It definitely sets up a good rival situation for both gangs. As for what they actually do, it seems like the Black Sun gang would be more into contraband and protection, whereas the rebel gang could be a little more shady and perhaps delve into the slave trade and more dangerous drugs.

That being said, our Black Sun gang could have some sub-name that fits with the solar system theme (like Satellite or something), or maybe they just operate under the name Black Sun?

I'm thinking my character Kou would work for the rebel gang because it would be easier for him to maneuver his way through the ranks rather than deal with the Black Sun hierarchy, plus he's a tiny bit more sinister. I could see Catra working for the Black Sun gang because they're more legit.

I like that idea too, Kote!

The Black Sun gang should go with the adjective/noun name combo. Maybe the rebel gang is too cool for a two words.

Saki could have been with the Black Sun gang and then went to the rival gang. And then Balin probably works for the Black Sun gang because it's a less shady job.

Maybe the shady gang could be Scourge?
And then the Black Sun gang could be... something like Black Cosmos, Far Moons, Seventh Satellite, Red Flare, Blue Moon, Giant Dwarf... okay some of those are just goofy, but I kind of like Red Flare.

Oh, great, I'm happy my ideas were useful. =)

I think, Yuno will most probably stay with the Black Sun gang, still she will tap the intel to the rivals just for the thrill and for sheer love for intrigues. Maybe she has some contacts with Kou?

As for the name of the gang, Red Flare sounds good for me. Though I don't really care for names, so it's up to you guys to deside. =)

Oh shab i forgot to add this to my watch list :S
Thanks for letting me join I'll begin writing up a bio a.s.a.p

As interesting a role a gang member may be I think I'll be able to better fit in as a Mando....now all i need is a pencil some paper and a star wars name generator...or a mando dictionary hmmmm

Can't really know where I'd fit in till I've finished the bio...


And by the way, I think Red Flare is a pretty good name, I'm guessing this isn't part of the black sun or is it a seperate branch?

I think Red Flare would be like a branch of Black Sun. Not exactly a part of them but they have ties to each other.

That sounds awesome Dha'Aden! If you need any help, suggestions, or if you have more questions feel free to post it. And of course, if you have any ideas for the game we'd love to hear them.


I think we should write up a little do dad for each gang and the gang lord. I can write up a little blurb for the Red Flare leader and Catika said she'd write one for Scourge.
The gang names are Red Flare (affiliated with Black Sun) and Scourge (rival gang).

Catika suggested her 7th grade Geography teacher's name 'Contardi' for the Scourge gang lord's name. She also talked about Contardi being a female Devaronian.
I like the idea. What do you all think?

The Red Flare leader is still up in the air. I'm pretty sure he's going to be a guy though. I'm open to any suggestions.

I don't mean for it to look like I'm taking control of everything, I just want things to move along. If anyone wants to be involved more just let me know.

Anyway, I was thinking that maybe another character could know Saki but by another alias. Maybe she did an undercover job with someone or something. Maybe one of the mandos, Tyre or Dha'Aden's mando.
And for Balin, I thought it might be humorous if he knew about the kind of lifestyle Yuno leads and would occasionally try to help her out or something. Helping as in borderline lectures and offering to come pick her up if she ever needs to get out of a bad situation. She could just be playing him for the fool but whether or not he knows that he'd still help her out.

I think it sounds great

If it's ok with you I would like for my mando to have known Saki, as I believe it would add an interesting twist especially if he were to find out her current alias and that it is her. Maybe even for them to be on opposing sides as I'm thinking of my mando to be the type of guy who would work for almost anyone as long as he can enjoy the glory of battle, almost like those Death Watch members (oooh Walon Vau would want to string him up alright). i've started working on his history and personailty etc and should post it sometime soon.

For the above reasons it makes me even think of using my current name; Dha'Aden
(as it means Dark Wrath/Vengeance) as my character's name...

I'll try to give better input once I've shaped my cahracter and know how he can fit into the whole scene...

Tenna, I think nobody minds at all that you get the things moving. =) Well, I personally don't. Anyway, I am no GM at all - I can only come up with some suggestions from time to time.

I love the idea of a Devaronian lady ruling the gang. That's exactly the occupation for a Devaronian woman - they're supposed to be good at business and quite ruthless, as far as I remember... And the thing abouth the name is hilarious! Naming a mob boss after your teacher is a nice way to have a bit of venegance after all these years...

Oh, I want to see how Balin would try to save Yuno, I really do! That's a great idea. Don't think he'll succeed, though. She is beyond salvation, I guess.


Uh, if Dha'Aden's Mando is a glory-loving maniac, then Tyre's gonna hate him. In his own nice and polite way...

And, btw, maybe we should start a new topic for ready bios? It would be easier to read them that way.

It didn't seem like anyone was bothered by me getting things moving, but I just wanted to make sure since this isn't technically my section of the board and I didn't come up with the gang idea.

Dha'Aden, It's totally okay for your Mando to know Saki! I was getting a little concerned that Balin was getting too much attention and Saki was turning into a deadbeat character. Would they just be acquaintances or something more than that? And are they on good terms, bad terms, or a little bit of both?

Kote, I figured as much and that made the idea even better to me. For some reason I kept on picturing Balin letting her sleep on his couch one night and then him waking up the next morning to find Yuno gone and all his furniture missing.

Yes, Catika mentioned that too and I was like "Yeah we'll do it." Didn't happen... but it will right now. Just repost your bios there so you can go in and edit them in case you want to. I think it'll be fine if we have all your bios in one post so we can keep track of which player has what characters.
Dha'Aden, just post your bio in the bio thread when you're done with it.

Hmmm I'm thinking maybe a bit of both?

Maybe really close friends at one point till a mission turned sour and they cut off all ties, hence I was thinking of putting him on the opposite side so they meet again in some sort of conflict. Tell me what you think though, I think I'll start a proper read through (not a skim one) of the already posted Bios so I can figure out how my cahracter can best relate to them if at all , I'm thinking it's going to be very interesting with my mando and Kote's Tyre...most interesting....

Still trying to think of more details but I've been busy lately and haven't had the chance to do much...but I'll get on to it as soon as i have time.

I like it Dha'Aden. I was thinking of all the ways a mission could go sour. Do you think something like a miscommunication, misunderstanding, or an accident that made things go bad? Or maybe one of them intentionally betrayed or set the other up? I'm kind of leaning toward the second only because it's more interesting. What's your opinion?

Suggestions for the Red Flare leader are still more than welcome/encouraged. Otherwise he just might be a pretty standard gang lord. Maybe a tad bit paranoid or unstable and possibly a bit of a bizarre paternal streak? I don't have a name yet, but I'll find something or try to remember my 7th grade geography teacher's name.

I want to keep up the pace and try and start this game relatively soon. At least before the month ends. I'll organize a thread for rpg information so we all have a reference and so it's easier for more people to join. And then I think we should start thinking about starting threads. I don't want anyone to get stuck in a thread they don't want to be in or be in a thread that they don't understand the point of. How have you all dealt with threads? Have they been more organized where only certain characters can be in one thread? Is it more of a free for all where anyone can make a thread and anyone can join in? Do you like threads to be more structured or have more freedom?

I'll make up a list of game rules/guidelines. I'll post a 'rough draft' of them to make sure everyone understands them. Are there any rules or expectations you all feel strongly about?

I'm for a game with more player freedom and the GM just keeps things moving smoothly and intervenes if they have to.

I would like to know more about the games you've been in and what kind of playing style it was and what was expected of the players. That way we can make a game that's enjoyable for everyone.

After reading all that I vote for you to be team captain! ^^ I've never actually done an RPG on a forum before so I'm proabably the newbie here

Anyways back to the characters, my mando (haven't named him yet poor guy) while not being the nicest and friendliest mando you've ever met certainly would remain loyal to his job and his duty, I'm not sure if he'd betray someone, more so try and purge those who betrayed him o.O in most cases at least...this case being the exception as they would have been close or very good friends conflicting with his natural routine of purging and them cutting off ties etc.
He's the type of guy that if you hire to hunt someone down he'll do it no questions asked and won't accept any payments to do otherwise no matter how much the offer. So if you do want the latter to be used I don't think he'd fit the character well, unless of course they were both betrayed by their employer for that job, in the way that after they dealth with the problem they had to be dealt with as well, due to knowing to much etc. tell me what you think about that though.

I'm sorry i can't help much with the Red Flare gang leaders name as I didn't do Geography in 7th grade at least none that I can remember....as for personality I have a few ideas *insert evil laugh here*

What if he was a nemodian! That would account for any odd behaviour in my books and I haven't seen many if any nemodian crime lords would add an interesting flavour I'm thinking. Such as a complete disregard for the well being of his employees and alot of paranoia surrounding his personal safety.

Possibly he hires my character as his personal body guards mando's having that reputation of superiority in such things.

Red Flare is the Black Sun gang right?

Yep! Red Flare is Black Sun (two words in each name, if that helps anyone remember), and Scourge is the rebel group.

Tenna and I sat down and tried to flesh out the gangs a bit more. The two of us are going to try and write a short description of each of the gangs, and after we post them, anything you guys want to add would be wonderful! I'm in charge of Scourge, so here's what we have so far:

SCOURGE
Gang Lord: Contardi Veigh, Devaronian Female (Personality: calm, ruthless, quiet)
Right Hand Man: Isazu, Negai Male (Personality: loud, nosy) <-- probably an NPC?
Jiro Kou
Saki Chiisulu

Kote, Tenna and I were wondering if you had any concrete ideas for how Tyre would get involved with the gangs. We saw that he was a weaponsmith so we thought it would be interesting if he was the weapon supplier for both gangs. If not, one. Or if not if not, what did you have in mind? (And if you've already expressed this and we missed it, I apologize!)

I'm still here and alive. It's been a really weird and busy past couple days. On top of that I haven't had much sleep and shouldn't be trying to process thing now. I will tomorrow though after I catch up on sleep.

Oh, it seems everybody are having hard time with their jobs/studies right now...

Well, concerning Tyre's part in this conflict... I don't know. He can be selling weapons to the gangs, why not, as long as it is profitable, but then he is only a go-between. He is not a large-scale producer of weapons, he is more of an "artist", you know, modifying and customizing weapons to suit client's needs. And as he is a single enterpreneur he can't probably take large-scale orders. I thought that maybe he was hired by some of the civvies who suffered from the conflict or something like. Though he may be doing two things at one time.

BTW, I've posted the expanded bios. I just hope Tyre don't look too mary-sueish... if he does, tell me and I'll try to improve him.

I got hit by a little old lady running a red light so I've been in a bit of a funk since then. Everyone's fine and she's paying for everything.

lol, team captain. As team captain I'd like to thank everyone for staying active and giving input! It makes things easier and more enjoyable for everyone. Keep up the good work


Dha'Aden, Saki would probably betray your Mando if Contardi told her directly or indirectly. Maybe it was necessary that she had to. She wouldn't have gone out of her way to betray him or just do it for fun. Being betrayed or set up by an employer they had would be really interesting too. I guess it depends on how complicated we want it to be. It could look like Saki betrayed him but really it was set up to look like she did. It think it might be more interesting if Contardi made Saki betray him.

And how close should they have been? Good friends that had each other back or maybe something a little more intimate or the potential to be more intimate?

We're pretty sure the Red Flare leader, Hec Kohler (he has a name now!), is going to be human. Catika and I did consider him being a Nemodian because we're all for diversity and new ideas but it didn't seem like Balin would have been able to form some strange type of friendship or fear and continue to work for him if he was a Nemodian. We also wanted him to be a little more unstable in the psychotic sense. In example, one moment he's shaking an old friend's hand and laughing at a joke then the next giving him a black eye and screaming at him. Hec would still hire your mando as a personal bodyguard because he thinks they're the best. Maybe Contardi threatened Hec and while he doesn't act frightened, he's a smart man and he's aware that he's unstable and losing it a little so he hires a bodyguard.


Kote, maybe Hec Kohler goes to Tyre for his own weapons. Hec's a little old fashion and could have an extensive weapon collection and also an appreciation for customized weapons. Maybe Contardi goes to Tyre for weapons for certain gang members or jobs too.

Or maybe Balin bought his stingbeam from Tyre and they're familiar with one another.

I started reading your bios over, Kote. I was tired though so I kind of skimmed since I had read them already. I can read Tyre's over again more closely later.


One more thing for everybody. Feel free to make NPCs. I'm thinking about having a thread to keep track of NPCs. All you would need for them is a name (doesn't have to be a full name if their full name isn't necessary) and a little description. That way you can use them again, and other players are familiar with them and could possibly use them with permission. Since there aren't many of us right now I think it's a good idea to make NPCs and keep track of them.

Wow this is really taking shape, I'm almost done with my bio, (the naming part was the hardest as i wanted something to suit his personality) finally come down to;
Solus Tor, translated to basic as One Justice.

Well Tenna sounds like it would work well either way, maybe yeah have it as Saki being told by Contardi even indirectly such as giving a hint that only one should return or something...

I'm still not sure to what extent their relationship should be, whether it was a simple friendship, comrades or something more, I think whatever you think you would be ok with I will also. Once i get my bio posted I believe it'll be easier to link our characters. I've actually done sketches of him before getting his background done lol, but I guess that's how I am, dunno if it'd be a good idea to send pics in with the bio as everyone would have their own imagining of the characters I think it's best kept that way.

As for npcs I think I can create some for the Red Flare gang, more so those on Solus Tor's black list and proabably a few that he tolerates, He may be a glory loving mando but that doesn't mean he's stupid, he's sensible but quite often clinical, I think when i said glory loving mando i meant he really and i mean really enjoys his work

Though please tell me if you think Solus Tor sounds corny I'll gladly change it, i was juggling between it and Dha'Aden but wasn't to sure...


P.S. any chance Solus can make use of those custom weapons produced by Tyre, as that might be the only way they tolerate each other. I appreciating his unique talents in creating tools for the destruction of my enemies and he tolerates me cause i'm a good customer, tell me what you think.

Old ladies can be very dangerous! I'm glad everything's all right now.

Tenna, I think that's a good idea. If Hec is old-fashioned, Tyre would surely like him, especially if he by some chance had or has some old Mando thingies. And if Tyre does business mostly with the Red Flare, then Balin could get an advice from somebody to buy weapons from such and such guy, couldn't he?

Another thing - if Hec is a human male, can Yuno be his girl? Pleeeese?

Dha'Aden, I didn't mean to offend you in any way - and there is no such thing as a stupid Mando, for a stupid Mando is a dead Mando, and Solus's still walking and talking, isn't he. And yes, there's a pretty good chance that he bought weapons from Tyre. I think their possible relations may look exactly like you said. Do we think of some background for their dislike for each other or just leave as it is?

BTW, Solus Tor is ok with me, sounds quite... powerful. =)

NPC's - I may think of some cantina' staff, for example - the one that hired Tyre and/or serves as his "HQ".

Wow guys, you know how to plan out an RPG. Your stuff seems to be really close to what I had planned, great work! Forgive me for not posting, I've been extremely busy. So if anyone wants to go ahead start things off, you're welcome to.

Great,
now about Solus and Tyre, maybe they have that Skirata/Vau relationship? if you've read the rep com books by Karen, if not it's kidna hard to explain hmmm

I'm a bit behind on this i think about time i pulled up my beskar and got some more work done,
And no offense was taken Kote i was just using the word to try and explain he's not like that shab'uir otherwise known as Ghez Hokan. Solus is a very Vau type of guy to a certain extent, but then i think all mando's have a Walon Vau inside em so not sure if that helps lol.

link to Karen's site: http://www.karentraviss.com/
almost all the info you need there, also where the mando'a dictionary is avaliable for download

Dha'Aden, right now from what I know about Solus it sounds like Saki and him would definite get along and be friends. I think if it was anything more than friends then maybe it would be the potential to be a more intimate relationship. I'm looking forward to seeing your bio!
And Solus Tor is a good name to me too.

Yessss make gang members! I'll probably make a thread and a little NPC character template today. The descriptions can be as long or as short as you want and can be added on to as time goes on.

Kote, yes Hec can be Yuno's patron! That's an excellent idea, I love it. I think Hec's middle aged... 40s or 50s? Don't humans live longer in this universe? Maybe he's more 50s-60s then... I have to get on making his little description. While he's probably not the spry young man he once was, he'd still have Yuno around as a symbol of power over his minions. He'd make sure she has everything she wants and needs in return for keeping him company and making his men envious of him. He wouldn't exactly treat her as an equal, though. Not because of her race or because she was a slave, but because he's a man and he's in the mindset that men take care of women and make sure they have everything they need. Also, he's a powerful ganglord who hardly sees anyone as his equal. Maybe he encourages her to seduce other men and toy with them but he wouldn't be aware that Yuno was doing that or going to do that with or without his permission. And if Hec ever knew she killed her master and hates everyone he'd probably amused by that and find it wonderful. BUT if he found out she was going behind back selling information and/or if she tried to kill or ruin him he'd probably kill her.

Hec could have some Mando antiques because he's a fossil and he likes to collect things. Maybe he admires Mandalorians or finds them fascinating (also another reason why he'd hire a Mando bodyguard). I bet Hec dragged Balin to Tyre to set him up with a weapon. Hec wanted Balin to get something deadly and powerful but Balin was just fine with a stingbeam. I think Hec would see Tyre as a good friend but maybe never say it or hardly ever say that. Cause he's shy.
And another 'yesssss' to the ganglord staff.

Everybody- I'll try and get the NPC thread up tonight, or tomorrow. It's mother's day today so my mom comes first.

Hey there Revan, long time no see! Thanks, we all contributed to get the game going. If you have time and still want in feel free to make a bio and add it to the thread.

Should be done with my bio this afternoon and will post it then.

I think the relationship between Saki and Solus ashould be one of those almost intimate but not quite there developed from a long friendship, proabably Saki being the only person he trusted till he was betrayed and lost that trust. I say almost intimate because Solus had become stone cold after the event(which will be explained in the bio), and thus he found it difficult to show any sort of emotions other than those which fueled his lust for vengeance and desire to prove himself in battle.

So one could say that Saki was his link to the past, the old Solus Tor...and I don't think much else need be said.

More to come later

Dha'Aden, yep, I've read Karen Traviss and I know the site, but thank you for the link anyway. =) Maybe their relationship is a bit like Skirata/Vau, but then, maybe Solus kinda despises Tyre for being such a nice and well-mannered guy, who seemingly enjoys dealing with the outsiders? And Tyre in his place consideres Solus psychotic and bloodthirsty?

Tenna, great! Then there must have been some situation when Hec threatened Yuno or hit her, maybe? Threats are usually enough, though. =) Yuno needs some reason to start hating Hec. And, btw, I don't really mind if she eventually gets killed. At least she'll be at peace with herself and the Galaxy then.

My, a shy ganglord. That's precious! If Hec is interested in Mandalorians, than he's found a great source of information, willing to spread his knowledge. Tyre would be glad to tell him some of the history and culture. Still I don't think he'll consider Hec a friend, more probably like a listener/source of information. He will be friendly, of course. But then he's friedly even with those he's to gut.

Revan, nice to see you back!

Finally I couldn't access this forum for some reason page was just blank, i'll be posting my characters bio but he doesn't have his full background completed as i'll be adding the rest soon